tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8385941970577961249.post3887366300089725996..comments2014-11-24T19:57:55.041-05:00Comments on Property Tax in Dutchess County: County Legislature Increases Tax Rate 14.3 PercentBill Rubinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16139253202894399632noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8385941970577961249.post-59500678367691776012010-01-01T14:37:55.053-05:002010-01-01T14:37:55.053-05:00The "official inputs" used to compute th...The "official inputs" used to compute the 14.3 percent tax rate increase were from the legislature, and were apparently only an estimate. The county budget office later refined the tax levy, yielding a tax rate increase of 13.9 percent. For details, see http://firetaxdutchess.blogspot.com/2009/12/apology-to-poughkeepsie-journal.htmlBill Rubinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16139253202894399632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8385941970577961249.post-80012422273945675722009-12-14T21:25:50.303-05:002009-12-14T21:25:50.303-05:00Response to Ginny: "Any explanation for the d...Response to Ginny: "Any explanation for the difference between PoJo's 14.6 percent increase in the tax rate and your 14.3 percent increase in the tax rate?"<br /><br />Yes: The Journal's calculation used rounded tax rates, which introduce inaccuracies. For the full story, see Item 2 of my blog post at 8:41 P.M. today.Bill Rubinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16139253202894399632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8385941970577961249.post-68251884194205860002009-12-11T15:45:50.198-05:002009-12-11T15:45:50.198-05:00Response to Ginny: "Any explanation for the ...Response to Ginny: "Any explanation for the difference between PoJo's 14.6 percent increase in the tax rate and your 14.3 percent increase in the tax rate?"<br /><br />Thanks for noticing. My result is based on an exact calculation, using official inputs. When I can verify exactly what assumptions were used to get the Poughkeepsie Journal's result, I'll post again to this blog.Bill Rubinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16139253202894399632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8385941970577961249.post-46431674054227409692009-12-11T11:44:34.122-05:002009-12-11T11:44:34.122-05:00Well it looks like maybe the Journal finally woke ...Well it looks like maybe the Journal finally woke up. Today's (Dec. 11, 2009)article is closer to the real story. Any expanation for the difference between PoJo's 14.6 percent increase in the tax rate and your 14.3 percent increase in the tax rate. Not that it makes much difference. We're all sunk if this budget passes the final mustard. You'll know you live in Dutchess County if your house goes up for foreclosure next year.Ginnyhttp://www.ginnyflies.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8385941970577961249.post-8610121879905158612009-12-10T22:40:23.333-05:002009-12-10T22:40:23.333-05:00Just think, property values according to the Pough...Just think, property values according to the Poughkeepsie Journal, just this week. Stated that while sales were up, prices were down another 14%.<br /><br />That means your 2011 will be lower and they will need to raise the Tax Rate to make the Tax Levy.<br /><br />Tax Levy is the amount a government needs to operate for a fiscal year.<br /><br />Tax Rate is the amount each property owner pays to make the Tax Levy.<br /><br />Another note of interest, the Commercial, non Homestead Tax Rates are going through the roof.<br /><br />Up 30% in Fishkill in the last 3 years alone.Ozzy Albranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8385941970577961249.post-42014775632466051782009-12-10T21:11:42.350-05:002009-12-10T21:11:42.350-05:00Response to "Anonymous": What you'r...Response to "Anonymous": What you're not taking into account is that your house is worth 4.4% less in 2010 than in 2009. So you're paying the same number of tax dollars as before (at the $2.66 rate), even though you're less wealthy (as measured by the market value of your house). If you ignore how much your house is worth, you're in for a big surprise if you try to sell it.Bill Rubinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16139253202894399632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8385941970577961249.post-54237586242723499172009-12-10T20:03:28.188-05:002009-12-10T20:03:28.188-05:00My math is different: a house assessed for 2009 a...My math is different: a house assessed for 2009 at $250K pays $635 at the rate of $2.54 per $1K. Same house assessed for 2010 at $239K pays $636 at the projected rate of $2.66 per $1K. With the Legislature's projected rate of $2.91 per 1K, the $239K house pays $695, an increase of 9.5%.<br /><br />How are you getting your numbers?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8385941970577961249.post-50137022516083371412009-12-10T18:06:05.388-05:002009-12-10T18:06:05.388-05:00You are spot on with this website. I live in Fishk...You are spot on with this website. I live in Fishkill, where the Tax Rate increased by 15% in 2008, 11% in 2009 and at least another 4% in 2010. 30% increase in 3 years!<br /><br />Everytime, the press reports that you are paying the same, as they lower the assessments and raise the TR to make the Tax Levy.<br /><br />They are wrong, you are paying more for a property worth less.<br /><br />Whats even more frustrating, is the same media. Allowed Fishkill to claim 10 years of Tax Cuts by lowering the Tax Rate. In 10 years the TR was lowered by less than 5% including 1 cent in 2004.<br /><br />I wrote to all local media expaining this. If you can claim a tax cut by lowering the TR, then when it goes up, it is a increase!<br /><br />In essence, if you don't raise the Tax Levy, you can never be called on for raising taxes.<br /><br />Keep up the good work.Ozzy Albranoreply@blogger.com